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Growing an Engaged Email List: Climbing The Email Staircase with Liz Wilcox

On this episode of Just Marketing, we've got Liz Wilcox dropping knowledge on how to turn your followers into customers using the power of email.

The gist: The Email Staircase is Liz Wilcox’s framework for turning email subscribers into friends and, eventually, customers. In this Just Marketing® podcast episode, Liz explains how a warm welcome sequence and a consistent, relatable newsletter build trust, so inviting people to buy feels natural when they’re ready.

Liz breaks it down with her Email Staircase framework and emphasizes the importance of investing in your business and audience to create authentic connections. And let me tell you, email is still a valuable tool despite what some people might think. I know from personal experience that building an email list through personal connections and engagement can be a game changer.

But that's not all, Liz is sharing some of her top tips and strategies for keeping your email list healthy and engaged. So if you're ready to take your marketing game to the next level, you need to tune in to this episode.

Don't sleep on the power of email, y'all. Go ahead and press play, and let's get this email marketing party started!

What Is the Email Staircase?

The Email Staircase is email strategist Liz Wilcox’s framework for turning subscribers into friends and, eventually, customers. Each step builds trust, so by the time you share an offer, your readers already know you, like you, and feel confident buying from you.

The Welcome Sequence: Starting the Friendship

Your welcome emails introduce new subscribers to who you are. Let your personality shine through, and share the vision you have for the people you serve. Liz also recommends naming the values that guide your business. For her, affordability is a big one, so she mentions it right up front.

Your Newsletter: Growing the Connection

A consistent newsletter, whether weekly, biweekly, or monthly, keeps the conversation going. Liz suggests opening with a two- or three-sentence personal update, then moving into your main content. Showing that you’re invested in your business and your readers builds trust, and sharing relatable moments (like scarfing down lunch before a meeting) helps people connect with you. Regular emails keep you top of mind, even if you occasionally miss a week.

Sales Emails: Turning Friends into Customers

Once trust is in place, invite your readers to buy. Mix short, simple reminders with longer, story-driven emails, and mention your offers more than once, since many people buy when they’re ready rather than during a launch. A “super signature,” a P.S. listing the ways people can work with you, keeps your offers visible in every email.

Keeping Your List Healthy

Liz recommends removing subscribers who haven’t opened your emails in about 90 days, at least a couple of times a year. A smaller, engaged list helps your emails reach the inboxes of people who want them, and it honors the consent that makes email marketing work.

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Transcript

Meg Brunson: I'm excited to be here today with the Fresh Princess of Email Marketing.

Liz Wilcox is an email strategist and a keynote speaker showing small businesses how to build online relationships, package up their magic, and turn it into emails that people want to read, and most importantly, purchase from. Liz, thank you for being here.

Liz Wilcox: Oh my gosh, I'm so excited and I'm gonna put in my headphones.

I just realized I don't have them in, but I'm really excited. I love talking about email and I think this format is really fun. So let's go.

Meg Brunson: Let's start with the age old question, is email dead.

Liz Wilcox: Oh my gosh. No, that's I, Meg just called it the age old question and it just blows my freaking mind that anyone would ask that question.

And I guess, throughout the years, so yesterday, let me say this. Yesterday somebody sent me a video and I noticed that he had 121,000. Unread emails. And so I guess to that point, Meg's eyebrow just went up to that point yeah, sure. It might seem like nobody uses email. I might not have 121,000, but I've got at least, a couple thousand unread emails.

But here's the thing, those companies. Are just doing email wrong when you can figure out how to do email, right? You become the bright spot in someone's email or somebody's inbox, right? You're like, oh my gosh, I can't believe Meg sent me something. Or, oh, here she is again. I'm I'm excited. I wonder what's inside.

It's the same as the mailbox. Sure. Like people might say, oh mail is dead, but I don't know about you. Amazon has used that. Infrastructure to, basically become the fastest growing company in the entire world. If it wasn't for mail, Amazon couldn't have created prime and couldn't have exploded in the pandemic to, basically take over the entire world via capitalism.

So it's the same with the inbox. The infrastructure is there and if you can use it properly, It is going to increase your business revenue and everything else. Like you could not even imagine.

Meg Brunson: I love that example because as a marketer, when I think of like direct mail marketing, I totally roll my eyes cause I feel like that is so old and outdated, but it's almost like you've just shown me that it's not.

That any, like the method itself isn't old and outdated. It's the strategy that if you're creative, if you are, aligned with what the recipient wants, then it's not the methods almost don't matter.

Liz Wilcox: Absolutely y'all, we have to stay relevant and we have to, I'm not one to like hop on trends, but we do have to evolve.

And the method, the e you know, email itself is not dead, but the, the customer is different. The consumer, the way that they read emails, the way they interact in their inbox can be different. You do have to adjust for that. You can't no longer, all those 121,000, those are the people that are not adjusting.

Those are the direct mailers. It's like you open it up, you can tell it's a one sheet, it looks like a church brochure or a JCPenney catalog from the nineties, and those people are not, adjusting for. The times, right? They're not staying relevant, right? They're using something that worked in the nineties or the early two thousands.

The consumer changes, so you need to change too. And what I love about email versus social media and why it will never die in my opinion, is email. Excuse me, is decentralized. Every, unlike Facebook, Zuckerberg owns Facebook. We all know that. We all saw him have to testify to Congress, right?

He is solely responsible for Facebook. Sure. He's got his minions, but he owns Facebook. He owns Meta, he owns Instagram, right? And so everything trickles down. It's so much different with email. Y'all email is decentralized. Google Hotmail or Outlook now talking of the nineties, right? Yahoo. All, there's so many email service providers that are allowing you to send mass emails and it's, it's through this very decentralized network and that's why it works so well.

That's why. It continues to keep stable cuz it's not one person at the helm, directing the boat. It's all these billions of users using it just like mail to get their messages across. There's not one person saying, Hey, these are the rules and everybody's got to follow them. It's so different and that's what makes it so effective and that's what keeps it alive.

Meg Brunson: I'd love to know your kind of origin story, like what was it in the beginning that got you into email marketing?

Liz Wilcox: Y'all y'all. I am an efficient chick. I do not like to waste time. Meg, right now, at the time of this recording, is in an rv. I started off as an RV travel blogger, and if you know anything about being in the woods, you can understand the internet situation.

Pretty crappy. And I'd listened to podcasts like this get on webinars and everybody and their mother said all this, you're doing social media, you're doing blogging, you're doing this, that, and the other running ads. It's all to get people on an email list and that is where you sell.

So again, efficiency, right? That's the way I operate. I was like, okay, everything I'm gonna do is to build this email list. Coupled with the fact that I had crappy internet, most of the time, sending an email out doesn't take a lot of internet. It's not uploading a video. It's not this, that, and the other.

All these other things that couldn't distract you as a content creator. It was like, oh, I can just put up a landing page. Get on a podcast like this, talk about what I need to talk about. Get people on a list, send an email out once a week. Oh, that, that seems pretty efficient. That. It's only gonna take me a little bit.

I was also traveling with a toddler. If you've ever met a toddler, they don't really care about business. They're not really into it, right? They're, they're more into like peanut butter and jelly. So I had to get it done very quickly and I just realized that email was the most efficient way to market, and I just doubled down on it year after year.

And it was when. And I'll share this later. When I created a wait list, finally did the digital course thing, I had 141 people on my wait list and I made 141 sales. When I word got around about that, they're like, no, you didn't. No, you didn't. I'm like here's the receipts. But I was a travel blogger.

I thought if you created a wait list, you sold. Product and people would buy it. So I was ignorant. So of course I was selling it. Of course, I was doing the most, I was like, these people said they wanted it, so I'm gonna sell it to them. And so to me, it made sense why everybody bought. But when I got into the business to business world, everyone was like, that's impossible.

How'd you do that? That's when I knew I needed to sell the RV business and go all in on email. To me it was inevitable, and to them it seemed like a miracle.

Meg Brunson: Oh, I love that. To them it was a miracle, but to you it was inevitable.

Liz Wilcox: even y'all, my biz bestie, quote unquote, we had a separate business together.

She had launched her course a bunch of times. I had never, I had other small products, but this was my first course. And I remember being on the phone with her and saying oh, this is my goal. And she laughed at me. She was like, that's impossible. And I said, for you, watch.

And she had to eat her words, and we still talk about that today. It's just when you know your zone of genius, you know your zone of genius. When you know, when you've put in the work, when you've laid the bricks for something, it is inevitable.

Meg Brunson: That's awesome. Now, how has your experience with email marketing changed over the years?

Liz Wilcox: It's like those really gross couples that tell people. I just love it more every day. I just love them more. Every day. Every day. I just fall more in love for me. It hasn't changed much. Just every day I fall more and more in love with building an email list and making those connections.

The way that I built my first email list was really just trying to make friends. I heard someone say write like you're talking to your best friend. And I thought my best friend hates camping. I'm not gonna talk to my best friend, but I'll talk to somebody I met at the campground that loves RVing just as much as me, right?

We have this mutual interest. So that's how I started emailing. I started making connections. I started getting replies. And that's why I think, my. My digital course took off because I was literally in the inbox talking to people, and I do the exact same thing today. Of course I have an assistant now that handles a lot of the admin stuff, but if somebody asks me an email question or they wanna know something about Liz personally, I'm in the inbox three times a week.

I am literally the one emailing you. Cuz I, I truly believe in the power of friendship. I truly believe in having that connection to your email list. And I don't think I've changed the way that I write. I'm still just writing to that one person who wants to love email the way Liz Wilcox loves email.

And it's. And that's what I teach. And so I don't think it's changed much except that I just love it even more and it's become simpler to me. It's become easier. I can just get on my computer and write an email. I don't lament over what I'm gonna say anymore.

Meg Brunson: I love that you mentioned that you have an assistant, but that you're still actively in their responding to emails like you haven't let your. What's the thing? Like you haven't gotten so big, right? That you're not in there still doing the work. Yeah. And that you find that balance.

Liz Wilcox: Yeah. And at the time of this recording, I have almost 10,000 people on my email list and y'all, I do get a lot of replies because I encourage them. That's literally what I teach.

If you are not making sales or you feel completely disconnected to your audience nothing is working. Get in your email and start to get some replies, you'll start to see some momentum. So that's what I teach and I just love it so freaking much. Y'all, and I'm gonna share this in a little bit, but you, the people on your email address are just that they're people, they're not email addresses.

It's not, oh, I've got a list of a thousand, got a list of 50. It's there. These are 50 individuals who have given you consent. To market to them. Like I don't take that lightly and neither should you, but not in a, oh my gosh, this is a big deal thing. But oh my gosh, these 50 people wanna geek out with me.

They wanna learn more. They want. Like they're interested in the same thing I'm interested in, so I'm just going to email them and have some fun with it. So of course I'm still in the inbox. I love it so much. I love, love, love connecting with people. And I just find, when I do that, it just happens to also make more sales, which win- win.

Meg Brunson: I would love to pass the mic to you and allow you to deliver your presentation, and then after you're done, we'll come back for some q and a little bit more discussion before wrapping it up.

Liz Wilcox: Awesome. Yeah. So I'm gonna talk a lot about how we turn those people into friends and into customers.

What Meg set me up for, she's a pro, isn't she? So this is called, I'm building my audience now, what how to turn followers into customers with email. And today I really just wanna share a little bit more. Why you should consider email marketing the email staircase framework, how to make real connections.

We've already talked a little bit about that and how to write your newsletter and simplify the selling process, but I know I'm gonna throw a lot at you, and my biggest objective is for you to just take one of these things and run with it. Don't try to do everything all at once. Email marketing already seems difficult, so just pick that one thing and get going on that one thing.

And you'll be good. We already shared a little bit about Liz Wilcox, but I did start off as an RV travel blogger. I sold that company. I started a second business about RV travel. It was a digital summit. I got bought out of that business. And now we're working with liz wilcox.com today and what I really wanna share, and we prefaced at the top of the hour.

Everything that I'm gonna teach you is through a couple different lenses. It's through, just being really scrappy and resourceful and having to just work with what I got. So you'll see if you're watching this video, you see a picture of me and I'm actually selling my digital course. At an in-person RV rally.

And so I'm among the MLM crowd network marketers, all that. And here I am trying to sell a digital course on RV maintenance with a giant sign, all of that. And then you'll see I'm actually on this other side. There's a picture of me holding up my phone with a slide of this exact presentation. And what was happening here is.

Internet was so crappy that I couldn't share my slides. I couldn't go live and share my slides at the same time. So I downloaded my slides on my phone and I was literally putting my phone up to the camera so people could see what I was talking about. And I want to preface this because everything I'm gonna teach you about, how to turn followers into customers has come from that.

Just get it done attitude. We need to get in, out and on with life. And the last thing is I'm really good at email. I'm sharing a screenshot right now that shows you I have a 70% open rate, almost 10% click rate. This is a few months old now, so I think my open rate is actually much higher now. And really, Why you should care about email is you own your list.

You don't own Instagram. Raise your hand if you heard about in 2022 some billionaire bought Twitter and it imploded on itself, right? If you were. If you had your audience entirely on Twitter, they might have started leaving in droves in 2022. But with email marketing, you own that list Meg and I talked about earlier.

It's consent based, right? And because it's consent based, because Liz says to Meg, yes, Meg, I wanna hear more. Email me. It has a crazy ROI for every dollar you spend, you can get up to 40 bucks in return when you do it. And last, you can make real connections. I think Meg and I first connected over email marketing and that is what I love so much.

I love that I can go out and meet the people on my email list or do podcast interviews like this and, excuse me, especially when I was in my RV travel days. I would literally, I would, I met hundreds and hundreds of people on my email list. Because I really wanted to make those real connections.

Now, you might be thinking, oh, I'm an introvert. I would never go out and actually meet people. But you can still have those intimate conversations in the inbox, and that is when you can really make some magic happen. So I follow something called the email staircase. First you have a follower, you get 'em on your email list and you turn 'em into a friend.

And once you have a list full of friends, you can basically just ask them. I know you talk about X, Y, Z a lot. I created a workshop on X, Y, Z. Do you wanna buy it? And you can turn 'em into customers. So how the heck do we make friends in the first place? What do I mean by all of this? It's really quite simple.

Number one, you've got in your emails, you've got to show that you are invested. Number one invested in your business, saying things like, oh, I just listened to some email marketer for an hour on how to write better emails. Hopefully moving forward, I won't be wasting your time in the inbox. You might think, oh, Liz, I, I sell.

Sports drinks to athletes. They don't care about me in my email marketing class, but they do. People will invest in people and businesses that they know are first invested. I just did a launch where I was sharing all the numbers the whole time of the launch, so people saw how I was invested in this launch, and they decided to invest back in the launch.

You can do this in your emails. Oh, I just bought a new computer. I just upgraded to this software. I'm really excited because it's gonna help me help you more, right? Show that you are invested first. Number two, as far as investments go, show that you are invested in them, right? So with me, all I care about is your email marketing.

I don't care about your podcast, I don't care about your social media following. All I care is that you figure out email marketing. So in my emails, I'm constantly saying, I want this for you. I want you to untangle the email marketing knot. I created this product because it's going to help you write a consistent newsletter, right?

I'm showing that I'm invested in them so they will invest back into me. Number two, you gotta share in a relatable way. And notice I didn't say interesting. I said relatable. Being interesting can be really hard. That's when our 10th grade English teacher comes and says, oh, you gotta tell a story, but it, you gotta have.

Hook right away and this and that and the other. Trying to be interesting is really hard, but being relatable is actually pretty simple. Me saying something like, I had to scarf down my food before this podcast interview cause I only had 20 minutes to eat. Is that interesting? Absolutely not. Is it relatable?

100%. Immediately you were like, oh, been there. Yep. I'm eating right now. This is the lunch and learn. It's incredibly relatable. Saying something like, oh, I had to take my dog for a walk before I sat down to write this email. Incredibly relatable, right? So just share in a relatable way.

And then number three, stay top of mind. And this is where most people, oh, Liz, oh gosh, I can't email daily. I can't email weekly email's not for me. But let me tell you something. When you can be relatable, when you can show you're invested, Staying top of mind becomes so much easier. You can forget one week.

You can pick up where you left off because people know you're invested in them. People know you're relatable, so it's easy to stay top of mind. Alright, now I know some of you are listening to the podcast and so you might not be able to write this down, but I want you to remember people buy from people they trust. Okay. And that is the power of friendship. I'm showing two things on the screen where I wrote a newsletter. It was titled, what are You Doing this Week? And I literally asked people what they were doing that week, what were their travels? And I also was doing my very first digital summit, and I was nervous, so I shared that I was nervous.

Remember that's relatable. Is it interesting that I'm nervous? No. Everybody gets nervous. That's not interesting at all, but it's incredibly relatable. So I had two replies here that I'm showing on the screen. You go, girl, wahoo. No camping for us yet, David. He says, wahoo, you can do it this week.

We're in Southern Rhode Island, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. It's, now, let me ask you this. Do you think these people would buy from me? If I said, oh, David, you're in Rhode Island, you need to stop by this ice cream shop. Do you think that person would buy? If the other person says, oh, Liz, oh, we're trying to get our ceiling fan in.

Do you know anyone that sells them? If I recommended, do you think they would take my recommendation? Absolutely because people buy from people they trust. I shared this earlier, but remember I had that wait list. I said, Hey, do you want this course on RV maintenance? I had 141 people click that said yes, they'd be interested.

And by the end of that I had 141 sales. That is the power of friendship. There are some other examples of this, these types of emails working. I have an example from an astrologer that says she sent out a version of one of my emails and it resulted in three one-on-one bookings. So even if you're not selling digital products, this is gonna work.

This follower friend to customer sharing that you are relatable, investing, staying top of mind. It definitely works. And here's how we do it, okay? Remember email staircase, follower, friend, customer, ba bing, ba da, boom. So first you just need a welcome sequence to start the friendship.

Okay? The welcome sequence should show off a bit of your personality. Meg we love Meg. She shows her personality and there's something about that that connects us to her, right? I'm looking on Zoom right now and her headshot, she's got purple and pink hair. I love that.

Immediately I'm like, oh my gosh, Meg's a unicorn. So am I. Let's go. So share a little bit of personality. Number two, your vision. What is that vision you have for your potential client, students, members, whatever you call them? For me, again, my vision is, You make money with email marketing. That's it. If you're walking across the stage of Wilcox University, the degree I'm handing you is email marketing, right?

That's my vision. I want you to make money with it. Okay? What is your vision? Share that in the welcome sequence. Share what bus they just got on, or what class they just enrolled in. And number three, your values. Now, this does not mean you have to put out a press release anytime a social injustice happens.

This just means there are certain principles that guide the way you do business. Sharing those is really gonna behoove you. It's really gonna connect to the people that would be your friends in real life, the people that are going to open your emails over and purchase from you. For me, one of my values is affordability.

So I say that right up front. Hey, my prices are pretty cheap because I value affordability. I want this to be accessible to you. Okay, so that starts the Friendship Now, newsletters, those weekly newsletters, biweekly, monthly, whatever you feel comfortable starting off with, this is gonna help you grow the conversation.

Or, I'm sorry, grow the friendship. It's gonna keep that conversation. You started in the welcome sequence going, it's gonna allow you to establish expertise, give value, and create real connection. Now these newsletters, Are gonna be where you share how invested you are, where you are relatable where you stay top of mind, right?

You could share anything. Basically a two to three sentence personal update. This is where you share how you're invested or how you're relatable. And then you segue into whatever content. Hey, check out my new podcast. I'm trying to grow my Instagram. Here's my new product, right? ET c. And then to solidify the friendship, you've gotta make some sales, right?

We've got to commit to each other. I'm the email marketer for you. You are the, what was the example I gave earlier? Whatever. I'm moving on. So sales emails. Vary the content be between short and long. Sometimes if you wanna get on your soapbox, you've got a good story that segues into your sale, go ahead, write that long email.

Other times it might just be, Hey, don't forget I have this $12 list building challenge coming up. Make sure you join here. It's for X, y, z. Just really simple, peace out, hope you make it. Number two, just. Constantly remind people of your offers. Don't just sell something one time.

Sell it over and over again. That list building thing that I just mentioned, I've been doing that for almost three years, and let me tell you, some people buy now. Some people buy later. The thing is, people don't buy when we launch. People buy when they are ready. I just had a launch. About three weeks ago, and I just did the numbers.

Right here. I got the numbers and I had 779 people on the wait list and 321 bought, so that's about 40%, I think 39.9% bought. So that means 60% of people who were interested. Weren't ready. So constantly remind your people just because you launched and 60%, 80%, 90% didn't buy it doesn't mean they're not going to buy in the future.

So always be reminding people of your offers. Now, if that feels really daunting, if selling feels icky to you or you haven't found your groove with it, you can add something called a super signature, which is, basically the footer of your email. PS When you're ready, here's ways we can work together.

And then you list, book a one-on-one call with me here. Join my program here, buy my workshop here, whatever offers you've got. Listen to my podcast here. So adding that super signature. Make sure you're reminding people of your offers. Cuz here's the thing. Your job is not to make money.

It's simply to find a problem that needs solving, and that awesome quote came from Robert Kiyosaki, the Rich Dad, poor dad guy. So your job isn't to make money. It's to find a problem that needs solving. Because the key to customers is just to get to know your subscribers, right? Turn them into friends, and then create the solutions, the packages, the offers for what they're struggling with for the obstacles they had.

I mentioned my list building challenge. That's because people are always saying, oh, Liz, your newsletters are great, but. I got nobody on my list. So what did I go and create a list building challenge, right? That's because I got to know my subscribers first and then I created that solution. Here's some other proof that fix it yourself.

Course that a hundred percent conversion rate. I keep talking about y'all. I've never changed a bite tire in my life. I had to hire out the content for this, but I knew that was the number one question I got for three years was how do I fix my RV myself? So what course did I. Fix it yourself. Tales from the Black Tank. This was my very first product, and Meg's probably laughing. She's on mute, but this was a collection of hilariously crappy RV stories. The Black Tank is where your sewage goes. I never in my life would've written this book had it not been for reaching out to my audience.

First talking to my audience and asking them, why do you follow me? They said Liz, you're really funny. You tell a good story. That was my first product, et c. So in summary, y'all email marketing is lucrative. I really want you in on this follow the email staircase follower, friend, customer, a welcome email, or I'm sorry.

Welcome. Emails and a consistent newsletter are essential to making that email staircase climbable and in the end, to turn people into customers, just ask them for what they want.

Meg Brunson: Amazing. I love how simplified you make things and yet, like I've seen so much of your stuff. I watch all your stuff, but like I still feel like I'm gonna have to go back and rewatch this again and take some more notes because there's little gems and little nuggets that I can use to make my email better.

I absolutely love it. I love your focus on relationships, and we all know the process of I hope we all know, right? The process of making a friend in real life, and this is just a way of doing that online.

Liz Wilcox: Absolutely. And that's what I say about when I share, just invest, and show you're invested.

Just be relatable and stay top of mind. That's how you make a real friend. If Meg and I, let's say today's the first day we met, right? And if six months from now I'm launching and I'm like, oh, she might be a good partner. Let me reach out to her. She'd be like, oh yeah, I re I remember you. Like we, we had a great conversation.

I don't really know you like that. Like I got other things to do. But if we meet today, I keep showing up for her. I invest, Hey, is there anything I can do aside from promote the episode to make this a win-win relationship? Or, Hey, Meg I know another person who would be great on your podcast.

Can I introduce you? I'm showing that I'm invested, right? And then I'm being relatable. Oh my gosh. I used to live in an RV too, and we did talk about that. I was like, wait, you're in a travel trailer? This is amazing. And I stay top of mind in six months if I ask her to be an affiliate. Probably more likely to say yes.

And that's the same thing you do in the inbox, right? If you just showed up six months from somebody gets on your list today, you show up six months from now asking for money. Ah, I don't know. I kinda need that, but I don't actually know you like that. But if you show you're invested over and over, you become relatable.

You stay top of mind when you launch. List building challenge or whatever. Oh yeah, I really do need that. And I know Liz has my back, so I'm gonna buy that. It's, it'll change your life. It'll change your life.

Meg Brunson: And you touched on this in the presentation, I just wanna touch on it again cause I think it's relevant as to where this conversation is going.

But the other piece of the puzzle is, you're talking about consistency and sometimes we, we stop being consistent for one reason or another. You get sick or you get overwhelmed or, whatever the case may be. And, Being honest about that, like that's happened to me where I disappeared, I just disappeared on my audience for a period of time.

When I came back, I wrote the email and I was like, y'all, here's what happened. And is that quote unquote professional? No, I'm not about being professional, right? It's, but it's building relationships. That's how you would interact with a friend. You would tell your friend what was up while you've been gone for a while, and then pick up where you left.

Liz Wilcox: Absolutely. And for the record, I'm only semi-pro. I'm never g I'm never getting into the N B A. Okay. I'm staying semi-pro. I like it here. It's comfortable and I can be real. And to that. If you have ghosted your list, if it's only been a few weeks, you can probably just gloss over it, and that's what most email marketers will tell you. Just don't even mention it, just get on with the show. But if it's been, four to six months longer, yeah, of course you're gonna wanna say, just like with a real friend, Hey, don't forget, I'm Meg. You. I'm supposed to be emailing you once a week, but here's the deal.

You don't have to apologize or lament over it, but just being real and saying, Hey, actually, I got distracted because X, Y, Z, but I'm back at it. I'm ready to reinvest into this email list. Let's go. I think that's gonna be great. I love that you brought that up.

Meg Brunson: Now I have a question that takes it a little bit away from writing the emails and a little bit more towards the tech side of things.

Do you remove people who are inactive from your email list?

Liz Wilcox: Absolutely.

Okay. Y'all, I know you worked so hard building your list. You finally hit a hundred subscribers, a thousand subscribers, 5,000, whatever, and it can feel. Email is emotional. It feels emotional. And for someone like me to just be like, oh yeah, just delete 'em.

If they're not opening, they don't care about you. That can feel, oh gosh, Liz, don't say that. I worked so hard. I spent so much money on ads. Whatever. But here's the thing. Let's say me, I joined Meg's email list, okay? And I'm opening. Green flag. Green flag. Every time I open, I'm sending a green flag to the internet gods Meg's emails matter. Now, let's say Warren joins Meg's email list and he doesn't open. Every time Meg sends an email, Warren Red flag. Red flag. And red flags mean a lot more than green flags. Okay. We wanna get rid of Warren because we wanna get rid of those red flags, because then let's say La Kendra joins the list.

Yeah, sure. Liz is sending up her green flags, but we've got 10 Warrens sending up red flags, so that signals to the internet. God's. Oh LA Kendra just opened, but Warren Times 10 is telling us that these emails don't matter. So we're gonna put Meg into the spam folder because we know her stuff doesn't matter.

80% of the list isn't opening. We've got 80% Warrens, right? So you don't even give La Kendra a chance when you don't scrub your list of Warren. And these are friends of mine and I'm gonna have, I'm gonna refer this podcast. They'll find it's funny. But, So we've got to get rid of those people that aren't opening.

And remember, email works because it's consent based. I opt in to hear from Meg, and sometimes I might, for whatever reason, it has nothing to do with Meg either. I go offline for three months or I decide, oh, I don't really, I'm not ready for this next step in my business. Or, I'm distracted.

I'm focused on my social media right now, or whatever. And so I just let Meg's emails sit. That is in itself taking away consent, and you as a responsible business owner should be paying attention to that and should be removing them because sure, some people will actively unsubscribe. But given that example I talked about at the top of the hour with the 121,000 emails unread in Mike's inbox.

That is the responsibility, that is the problem of the business owner that keeps emailing Mike, despite him not opening. That is an irresponsible business owner, and I know that's not you, so I know you sh you wanna look at your people that are not opening and remove them at least a couple times a year.

That's my soapbox.

Meg Brunson: I love it.

I agree with you just because I knew the tech side of things, but I love how you brought that consent piece into it, right? Anything that's not an enthusiastic Yes. Is no. And so if they're not opening the emails enthusiastically Yes. Opening the emails, then we should stop

pestering them.

Liz Wilcox: Can we talk about dating? So I know dating online or dating right now is like really hard, right? Like it's all, everybody's dating online. So let's say you're texting. Somebody, and at first they're, they're texting you back and then a couple days, like the texts kind of stop.

You never set up that first date if you kept texting that person that's grounds for a lawsuit. You know what I'm saying? Eventually you should give up, right? Eventually you could say, okay, I'm gonna delete Warren's phone number. He, I can clearly see he's leaving me unread. I can clearly see he's not interested.

We never set up that first date. That's the same in the inbox. If somebody doesn't open for 90 days, I can clearly see that maybe they got on the bus, right? They were headed to email town. Something happened. And now they want off the bus. They're, they're not opening anymore, so I should let them off the bus.

I should remove them. If indeed they come back, then that's great, but sometimes they don't. Delete the number. Don't keep texting someone who hasn't set up a date

Meg Brunson: or opened an email. Now I wanna make sure we talk about how people can work with you. And I especially wanna talk about your email marketing membership.

I was an email marketing member that inspired me. A lot of people who are listening now or watching now get my weekly social content. And so I just wanna say that your email marketing membership is a perfect companion, to weekly social content. So can you go ahead and spill the beans on what the email marketing membership entails?

Liz Wilcox: Yeah. When Meg said, oh, how do you, how do people work with you? You don't, I don't take client work anymore. All I really do is this email marketing membership. Of course, I sell other things, I mentioned my list building challenge, all this other stuff. But my main offer, and the thing that I love, the way that I love to serve people is with this membership.

So Meg's content membership, mine is for email newsletters. I talked about showing your invested,. Being relatable. All that strategy talk, I actually just do it for you. I realize email is one of those things, it's just like a knot. You're never gonna untangle, but it's my zone of genius.

So I thought, why don't you just let me write it for you. So every single Monday morning at 5:00 AM. It's really strict. It's the only thing strict in my life. You get that newsletter template where you can take and make it your own and how it actually works. And why I believe it could work for you is you get a video walkthrough.

I walk you. Through exactly how you could use the template, depending on your personality the goals you have in your business right now and the tone, right? Not everyone is as extrovert as Liz Wilcox, right? So if you're less comfortable, I talk about that. And then you also get a skeleton outline. So the bare bones, think of it like, when you're scrolling Instagram and they say, this is the trending audio.

Use this audio and then do X, Y, Z with it. That's what the skeleton outline is. It shows you the bare bones of the email so you can see what it actually is. I also give you an email explanation and two swipes. So not only do you get the template, you get swipe files. Those are a plus examples models of what this would look like in ABC business.

So one example might be a nonprofit. The other example might be you teach a course on how to be a solo woman traveler, right? And so it's all very different. So the more you're in the membership, the more you start to see different business examples, different tones, different styles, so that you can actually find your voice instead of just.

Using Liz's so I love my membership so much. We're at the time of this recording, we're at over 3,400 members from 22 different countries. It blows my freaking mind, and I just love to serve people in this way.

Meg Brunson: And let's talk about price, right? Because it sounds like there's a lot included.

Liz Wilcox: I didn't even, I didn't even mention the price.

Yeah. You also got a live q and a with me once a month and y'all, sometimes I'd be going two hours. Like nowadays there's over a hundred people that show up on that call and we just go. You get some other things like guest experts, things like that. Y'all, it's $9 a month. I really mean it. I think I said it at the top of the hour.

One of my values is affordability. I really mean it when I say I want this to work for you. And I know email is one of those things that is absolutely essential to your business. Which makes it the most expensive thing to learn, and I just think that's bs. And so when I created my membership, I was like, this is gonna be the jumping off point, whether you have made $0 in your business, or you know you're a nine figure business owner and you just are looking to add email, and these are real.

People in my membership, it's crazy. This is gonna be the thing to jumpstart this email list thing for you. And so I wanted to make it accessible for all people because it was the thing that I needed when I was living in my trailer, next to and just, I always say , I was just a girl with a mountain dew and a dream, and I had no money.

I had to figure it out on my own. And if that's you. Those are the people I wanna work with. That's why I can proudly say, you can't hire me to write for you because I'm too busy working with the people that actually need

Meg Brunson: me. Oh, I love it. I love it. I love it. And I am a member and I love it. So we will drop a link.

The link will be in the show notes. If you are in the group, it'll be in the group. We will drop a link so that you can go ahead and learn more and sign up for the email marketing membership. Liz, I wanna thank you so much for being here today. I love connecting with you, and I'm so grateful that you took time out of your busy schedule to pour into my audience.

So thank you so much.

Liz Wilcox: Of course, I cannot wait to see what everybody does with email. You can also just get some samples of the membership at LizWilcox.com. There's a hot pink button. You can't miss it. It's gonna give you a welcome sequence already written for you three newsletter examples directly from the membership to help you get people to click, reply and buy.

And if that's not. Writing from scratch. I don't know if but it totally sucks. So I give you 52 subject lines for free as well. LizWilcox.com. Thanks so much, Meg.

Meg Brunson: Woo. Thank you.

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About Liz Wilcox

The Fresh Princess of Email Marketing, Liz Wilcox is an Email Strategist and Keynote Speaker showing small businesses how to build online relationships, package up their “magic” and turn it into emails that people want to read and, most importantly, purchase from.

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FAQs

What is the Email Staircase?

The Email Staircase is a framework from email strategist Liz Wilcox that guides subscribers from follower to friend to customer. A welcome sequence starts the relationship, a regular newsletter deepens it, and sales emails become a natural next step once trust is in place.

Is email marketing still worth it?

Yes. Your email list belongs to you, so platform changes or algorithm shifts can’t take your audience away. People also choose to join, which makes email a consent-based channel where genuine relationships grow. Businesses that send relatable, helpful emails often become a bright spot in a crowded inbox. Learn how to write a welcome sequence that nurtures without pressure.

How do I turn email subscribers into customers?

Show subscribers that you’re invested in your business and in them, share updates in a relatable way, and show up often enough to stay top of mind. Then remind people of your offers regularly, since many buy when they’re ready rather than during a launch.

What is a super signature in email marketing?

A super signature is a P.S. or footer at the end of your emails that lists the ways people can work with you, such as booking a call or joining a program. It keeps your offers visible in every email without turning each message into a sales pitch.

Should I remove inactive subscribers from my email list?

Removing subscribers who haven’t engaged in a few months helps your emails reach the people who do want them, since low engagement can push your messages toward spam folders. Sending a friendly check-in email first gives people a chance to stay. Cleaning your list a couple of times a year respects consent and keeps your list healthy. Learn how to build a marketing funnel rooted in consent.

What should I write in my email newsletter?

Liz Wilcox suggests opening with a two- or three-sentence personal update, something relatable like a busy week or a new project. From there, segue into your main content, whether that’s a podcast episode, a tip, or a gentle reminder about an offer.

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About Meg Brunson

Meg Brunson is a marketing strategist and the creator of Just Marketing®, a justice-centered approach to marketing for impact-driven businesses.

Just Marketing® is ethical, inclusive, and accessible, so your audience feels supported and your business grows sustainably.

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Choosing tactics that respect your audience is a s Choosing tactics that respect your audience is a sound business decision, and it builds the kind of trust that carries a business for years.

You get to decide what "working" looks like. Maybe it's a thank-you DM from someone who has quietly read your content for months, or wrapping up a launch with your energy still intact.

Shifting how you track success can happen gradually. The blog post outlines a gentle, step-by-step approach:

1. Choose one metric that feels misaligned and deprioritize it for a month.

2. Swap in a metric that reflects depth, such as email replies or DMs that become real conversations.

3. Set reflective goals alongside numerical ones, like "I want this offer to feel calm and clear."

4. Check in with yourself monthly about what felt good to create and where you felt most aligned.

5. Leave room for the impact that never reaches a spreadsheet, like the longtime lurker who finally reaches out.

Monthly reflection works especially well for ADHD entrepreneurs, since so many of us thrive on noticing patterns and adjusting as we go.

So the next time someone urges you to optimize for clicks, pause and check in with what matters to you. Then trust your answer.

What's a win from your business that would never appear in your analytics? 

Read more about measuring what matters: MegBrunson.com/marketing-metrics 

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So you're ready to step away from pressure-driven So you're ready to step away from pressure-driven metrics. What do you measure now? 

Ethical marketing still runs on data. The shift comes from paying attention to signals of connection and consent, and those signals are often easier to spot than you'd expect.

Here are five categories worth tracking:

1. Audience trust
DMs that turn into real conversations and clients who refer their friends. Unsubscribes belong here too, since a respectful exit is useful information.

2. Content resonance
Time spent on the page, saved posts, thoughtful comments, and email replies that go beyond a quick click.

3. Relational metrics
Invitations to speak or collaborate, plus testimonials describing the emotional and practical impact of your work. Think of this as your relationship ROI.

4. Creator alignment
Are you proud of what you're putting out? Would you sign up for your own emails? Your integrity counts as a key performance indicator.

5. Capacity-friendly indicators
Could you repeat this process with your energy intact? Sustainable growth often comes from doing less with more intention.

Some of these live in your analytics dashboard, and others show up as a quiet gut check after a launch. Both kinds of data deserve a place in your strategy.

Which of these five would you like to start tracking?

Read more: MegBrunson.com/marketing-metrics 

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Every number on a marketing dashboard reflects a c Every number on a marketing dashboard reflects a choice someone made about what counts as success.

Conversion rates, and follower counts, and ROI… oh my!

For values-driven entrepreneurs, especially those of us navigating ADHD or other forms of neurodivergence, chasing these numbers can quietly pull our marketing away from the trust and accessibility we care about. Neurodivergent buyers often need more time and clarity before making a decision, and pressure tactics tend to push them away.

Our latest blog post breaks down five commonly celebrated metrics and the ethical cracks underneath each one:
– Conversion rate
– Open and click rates
– Follower count and vanity metrics
– Abandoned cart metrics
– ROI as the only measure of success

We also explore how these metrics became standard practice in the first place. The short version: pressure tactics get rewarded with quick results, and marketing advice tends to get recycled without anyone asking who it serves.

Measurement still has a meaningful place in ethical marketing. 

The blog closes with alternative metrics grounded in trust and alignment, plus a gentle, step-by-step way to shift your tracking system at your own pace.

Which marketing metric were you taught to chase that never quite sat right with you? 

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If that’s where you are right now - I see you. M If that’s where you are right now -  I see you.

Maybe you’ve been:
~ Planning quietly behind the scenes
~ Avoiding content because it feels overwhelming
~ Waiting until things feel “more ready” or “more perfect”

But here you are - taking the first (or next) step toward showing up.

That’s not small.
That’s brave.

If you’re ready to begin - or begin again - I created the Content Marketing Membership to walk with you.

You’ll get:
~ A flexible content calendar
~ Templates that don’t box you in
~ Prompts to get your ideas flowing
~ And a no-pressure space to find your voice and build your momentum

One step at a time. 
One post at a time.
You’ve got this and I’ve got you.

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Want a way to respond to objections that feels lik Want a way to respond to objections that feels like you?

When a potential client hesitates, it's tempting to reach for a rehearsed comeback. Instead, try this four-step approach that’s grounded in empathy, easy to remember, and ADHD-friendly.

1. Acknowledge
Start by validating their concern. Listening comes first.
Try: "That totally makes sense. Thank you for being honest."

2. Ask
Get curious and invite them to share more.
Try: "What information would help you feel more confident in your decision?"

3. Affirm
Remind them their agency matters.
Try: "It's okay to take your time. I'm not going anywhere."

4. Align - *only if it's a true fit!
If you believe your offer can help and their hesitation comes from a misunderstanding, gently connect the dots between your work and their goals.
Try: "From what you've shared, it sounds like this could give you the structure you've been craving. Want to explore what that could look like together?"

That fourth step comes with an asterisk for a reason. Sometimes the most ethical move is recognizing when an offer isn't the right match and pointing someone toward a better resource. That kind of honesty is how referrals and raving fans are born.

Bonus tip for my neurodivergent friends: write a few go-to responses in your own words and practice them out loud until they feel natural. Having language ready can calm your nervous system when an objection pops up mid-call.

Find examples for…
- "I can't afford it,"
- "I need to think about it," and
- "I'm not sure this will work for me,"
at MegBrunson.com/handle-objections

Which step feels hardest for you?

For me, it used to be Affirm, because staying patient with my own fear of rejection took practice.

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These aren’t “edgy” or “political” positions - the These aren’t “edgy” or “political” positions - they’re commitments to justice, equity, and humanity.

And if you’ve been in these online business streets for a while, you know: Most marketing advice tells us to water this stuff down.

“Don’t alienate your audience.”
“Keep your personal views out of business.”
“Be neutral to stay safe.”

But neutrality upholds oppression.
And silence serves the status quo.

I’m not here to market around injustice.
I’m here to build systems that center justice from the start.

That’s what Just Marketing® is all about.

If these values align with yours - you’re welcome here. Always.

💕

Black Lives Matter
- All lives won't actually matter until we prove that Black lives matter
- DEI is not the enemy

No Human Is Illegal
- Seeking asylum is a right.
- Immigrants & refugees should always be welcomed.

Abortion Is Essential Healthcare
- It's none of your business.

Love Is Love
- Gender and sexuality are beautifully fluid.
- People weren't meant to fit into boxes.

Free Palestine
- Colonialism, apartheid, and ethnic cleansing are intolerable.
- Criticism of a government does not mean hatred of a people.

I also believe that through small daily actions, we will influence broad long-term outcomes.
We must believe this is possible!

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Traditional sales training teaches us to "bust thr Traditional sales training teaches us to "bust through" objections before a potential client can slip away.

The scripts sound something like:
– "Can you put it on a credit card?"
– "This price goes up at midnight!"
– "How much is it costing you NOT to solve this?"

Those lines lean on shame and urgency to force a yes. For neurodivergent folks, people with trauma histories, or anyone who's been pressured into decisions before, they land as a red flag. The trust you worked so hard to build can evaporate in one sentence.

Here's a gentler way to look at it: an objection is information. When someone says "I can't afford it right now" or "I don't have the time," they're protecting their budget and their energy.

Thoughtful, mission-driven people make decisions carefully, and that care deserves respect.

A few mindset shifts that help:

– Treat hesitation as an invitation to get curious. Ask what would help them feel confident.

– Let "no" and "not yet" be complete answers. People who come back later arrive from trust, and they tend to stick around.

– Give yourself permission to pause. If real-time objections spike your rejection sensitivity, try: "Let me think about that and get back to you. I want to give you a thoughtful answer."

Kindness and effectiveness can live in the same sales conversation. Clarity and confidence in your offer do the heavy lifting.

I broke down how to respond to real objections, with example language you can adapt to your own voice, on the blog: MegBrunson.com/handle-objections

Now I'm curious: what's the most cringe-worthy "objection-busting" line you've ever heard?

(Or used! Zero judgment here. We've all been handed those scripts.)

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You can build the most thoughtfully structured wel You can build the most thoughtfully structured welcome sequence around, and tone will still be the thing that makes it sound like you. So, let's talk vibes…

1. Write like you talk
Contractions and everyday language are welcome here. A line like "I hope this brings a little more ease into your day" feels warm and human.

2. Lead with empathy and autonomy
Offer your tools as options. "Take what fits and leave the rest" is one of my favorite phrases for exactly this reason.

3. Honor neurodiversity and capacity
Short paragraphs and one clear next step per email make reading easier on every kind of brain.

4. Be inclusive by default
Greetings like "Hey friend" or "Hey there" invite everyone in. Leave room for the wide range of lives your readers are living.

5. Normalize opting out
A simple "unsubscribe anytime, no hard feelings" builds a surprising amount of trust..

Your readers are here to be cared for, and a warm, clear tone tells them they've landed in the right place.

The blog includes more swap-in phrases plus the complete welcome sequence template: MegBrunson.com/welcome-sequences 

What's a phrase you love seeing in emails from businesses you trust?

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Here's a 5-email welcome sequence structure, ready Here's a 5-email welcome sequence structure, ready to shape around your voice and your people.

1. The Friendly Hello
Deliver your freebie and set clear expectations for how often you'll show up in their inbox.

2. Your "Why" (Values & Vision)
Share the story behind your work and invite readers to reply with theirs. Those replies are honestly some of my favorite emails to receive.

3. A Quick Win or Valuable Resource
Offer something they can use today, like a tip or a checklist. Pure value, zero pitch.

4. What Working With Me Looks Like
Gently share your offers as an invitation. A relatable testimonial makes a lovely addition here.

5. Recap + Stay Connected (optional)
Summarize the goodies and share where else to find you. This is a great spot to normalize unsubscribing, too, since the right people will happily stay by choice.

My favorite part? Each email has one job. That makes the whole sequence much easier to tackle in small, focused sessions, which is a gift for anyone whose brain prefers bite-sized tasks.

Write these once, and they'll greet every new subscriber for you while you're off chasing your next big idea.

Find more welcome sequence support on the blog: MegBrunson.com/welcome-sequences 

Which of these five feels trickiest for you to write?

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Ever downloaded a free checklist and then watched Ever downloaded a free checklist and then watched your inbox turn into pressure central?

"Only 3 spots left!"
"Offer ends at midnight!"
(Spoiler: it was still there the next morning.)

For a lot of us, especially neurodivergent and values-driven folks, that kind of welcome sets off every alarm bell we've got. It also leaves plenty of mission-driven business owners wondering whether email marketing is worth the ick at all.

Good news is, your welcome sequence can be one of the kindest corners of your whole business.

Think of it as greeting new subscribers the way you'd greet a friend walking through your front door. You say hello and let them know what to expect. Then you trust them to decide what happens next.

That's the heart of a Just Marketing® welcome sequence. It centers:

– Transparency about what you'll send and how often

– Autonomy, so readers choose their own path (unsubscribe button included, zero guilt attached)

– Accessibility through plain language and alt text

– Inclusion that shows your people exactly who this space is for

Bonus for my ADHD crew: once it's written, it keeps showing up for you. Your welcome sequence handles the introductions while you save your energy for everything else on your plate. Consistency, on autopilot, with your values baked right in!

On the blog, I walk through the pushy tactics worth retiring and a flexible 4-5 email structure you can shape to fit your own voice: MegBrunson.com/welcome-sequences 

What's one welcome email that made you genuinely glad you hit "subscribe?"

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When your marketing is grounded in strategy and cr When your marketing is grounded in strategy and creative freedom, everything clicks into place.

You feel clear.
You feel inspired.
You feel capable of actually showing up consistently.

That’s how I approach every client relationship - with clear structure, space for ideation, and the kind of collaborative rhythm that doesn’t require burnout to make progress.

If you’ve been craving that kind of partnership…
One that respects your vision, aligns with your values, and gives you tools and support?

Let’s talk: YourMarketingPerson.co 
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Trust builds conversions. When people know you're Trust builds conversions. When people know you're not trying to manipulate them, they stick around longer, engage more, and buy when they're genuinely ready instead of when a countdown timer scared them into it.

Aligned leads convert at a higher quality than volume-driven ones. A consent-based funnel might bring you fewer names on your list, and that's a feature, not a flaw. Those are the people who resonate with your actual values, respond to your emails, and often become long-term clients or collaborators.

Slower doesn't mean less successful. Consent-based marketing tends to move at a more sustainable pace, which works especially well if you're managing ADHD, chronic illness, caregiving, or just plain burnout. That pace gives you room for thoughtful tweaks and deeper connection instead of a constant chase for the next conversion.

So yes, it converts. It just measures success on a timeline that respects your energy and your people's autonomy, instead of one built for urgency and burnout.

Want the full case for why consent-based marketing works? 

Check it out: MegBrunson.com/Consent-Based-Funnels 

Have you seen a slower, more relationship-driven approach pay off in your own business? 

Share your experience in the comments - I'd love to hear it.

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