Jordan Gill, VIP Day expert at Systems Saved Me, joins me to talk about the unique opportunities that offering VIP Days bring to your business. Jordan shares her story of overwhelm in her first year of business, and how it led her to seek a different business model – one that allowed her to work efficiently and quickly to get tasks done, and not have deadlines constantly looming in the background. Once Jordan began offering VIP days, her whole business changed, and she found an alignment that she didn't know could exist. Now, she's spilling all her secrets with us in this episode and at the upcoming Done in a Day Virtual Summit.
In This Episode You'll Learn
- What exactly a VIP Day is, and how they can help you turn your monthly retainer fees into a “Done in a Day” fee… so you can work 2-4 days per MONTH.
- What types of businesses are best suited for offering VIP Days – it may surprise you!
- What to offer as your VIP Day
- Options for Introverts – VIP Days don't have to be on Zoom or in-person!
- How VIP Days benefit busy parent entrepreneurs
- How marketing is different with VIP Days when compared to marketing for retainer clients.
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Transcript
Meg Brunson
Hey. Hey, familyPreneurs. Thank you so much for joining me on another episode. Today, I'm very excited to be chatting with Jordan Gill. Jordan is a seven-figure business strategist whose mission is for high achieving business owners to prioritize rest, without sacrificing revenue. She's helped over 400 coaches and consultants work with clients only four days a month with VIP days. So when she's not spreading the gospel of VIP days, she's working on one of her thousand piece jigsaw puzzles or traveling the world with her husband and bonus son. I feel like we could talk about travel as a whole other podcast episode too. So, Jordan, thank you so much for being here today. I am super psyched to be able to chat with you and to share this conversation with all of our listeners.
Jordan Gill
Yeah, it's going to be super great. I think, again, VIP days for me are so much more than the premium pricing that comes with it. It really is putting your life and your family first because for me, that's top of my list. For any business opportunity I'm going to move forward with.
Meg Brunson
Awesome. And that's obviously a very big value that my listeners have as well. So let's kind of start at the very beginning. Can you define what a VIP day is?
Jordan Gill
Yes. So how we define VIP days is they are a four figure offering, meaning that they start at $1,000. So they're premium priced and they last between three and 8 hours within a 24 hours period of time. And they lead your clients through a transformation or process or method of some sort. So what some people have maybe heard before this is, oh, you can do a strategy session for an hour or a pick your brain or something like that. And that's not quite the same thing as a VIP day. A VIP day really is like a yellow brick road journey that you're taking your clients onto an end result, whether that is launch strategy, whether that is building a website in a day, whether that is coaching somebody through their post pregnancy plan for their family, whatever that is for you, it's definitely got to have a beginning and an end. So that's like really core to what a VIP day is and the types of buyers that are going to be coming to you, like VIP clients. So that's how I would define VIP days.
Meg Brunson
And what type of businesses are best suited. Like, is this for service providers only or are there some surprise ways that other business types could incorporate this into their-
Jordan Gill
Yeah, it's been interesting because when I started really teaching this, I did have like, service providers, even some coaches and stuff like that. And then it's been really wild in two years to see how expansive VIP Days really are. We've had doulas, we've had wedding planners, we've had anxiety coaches, we've had marital coaches, we've had all sorts of folks who are raising their hands and are like, I want to do VIP days. And I'm like, okay, let's sit down and think about this, because as much as I love VIP days, I also want to be very practical. But it's been really cool to see especially really traditional areas of business or areas of interest like wedding planning. You wouldn't think that wedding planning could be done in a day, but it has been, and that's been so cool. And it's a way to have an innovative offer in a really traditional industry, which, again, just really allows you to stand out in the sea of samesies. But I would say, generally speaking, I would say most service providers, coaches, consultants is like the easiest yes for a VIP day. And if you're outside of that, it doesn't mean that you can't do a VIP day.
Jordan Gill
However, you just kind of have to be a little bit more creative.
Meg Brunson
So you talked about what can you get done in a day? Is that how you typically start that process of, what should I offer? How much can you do in a day with a client, one on one?
Jordan Gill
Yeah, I look at it through the lens of my transformation spectrum, if you will. So if you picture like A to Z, if that's the full transformation you can give somebody, then you can maybe get it done in a day. Like website designers, a full transformation would be a fully built website, right? And so you can do that as a VIP day. However, there's two other transformations that you can do as well. One of them is A to like, G on the transformation spectrum. So it's that beginning stage. So think about it. Like, maybe it's the website strategy. It could be launch strategy. It could be social media strategy. It's usually a strategic nature or like an audit nature of a VIP day. So that is the founding transformation. That's what I call that. And then there's also a feature transformation that is like J to P, maybe J to Q on the A to Z spectrum, and that is smack dab in the middle. So think of it, if you're like a social media manager and you want to do a VIP day, but you don't want to really do the strategy, you don't really want to do the publishing and scheduling.
Jordan Gill
You just want to do the creation of the assets. That would be a feature transformation because you're literally just like, plugging in. Someone can come to you with a strategy, you execute it, hand them the assets, and then they go take it and run. So again, there's like the full transformation, A to Z, the founding transformation, A to J, A to H, and then feature transformation in the middle, which is J to Q. And what most people think is, oh, there's a gap at the end of, like, Q to Z. And I would say that most people are not finishers. So while you can have a finishing transformation. That's my fourth F. I wouldn't say that that is as common is somebody brings you the strategy and creation of assets and then you plug it in for them. That just doesn't tend to be who I am targeting and who is most interested in VIP days from a service perspective as well as who's buying and who's the client. So it's there, but most people don't focus on that.
Meg Brunson
That's so interesting. Most people don't finish.
Jordan Gill
It is what it is.
Meg Brunson
So it sounds like we could offer more than one VIP day, right? So you could almost offer like three different VIP days, like the beginning, the middle, and the end, and then people could either buy one or potentially bundle all three. Is that how you've seen or recommend people do that?
Jordan Gill
Yeah, I definitely if people enjoy the full transformation but they also like it in kind of a bite sized'ish way, then I've definitely seen people who will take their founding transformation and put that out there as the only way people can work with them. And then once somebody works with you once, then any kind of back end, what I call them back end VIP days that you do are a lot easier because you've literally just spent a day with somebody, you get them like it's rolling and so anything else is going to be easier. So for example, like a copywriter will have a sales page VIP day and that's the one and only way you can work with them. And then on the back end they have you can write their email launch sequence, you can write their Facebook ad copy in a day, you can write all sorts of stuff, but because the sales page is completed, that makes everything else much easier and much smoother. So there's definitely opportunities for upsells and ways to work with people in more than one way and it doesn't have to just be a one time transaction.
Meg Brunson
I'm curious, what stage of business do you recommend people be in to start running these VIP days? Could you be an emerging entrepreneur in your first one to three years or is it more recommended that you have one on one experience first that you're turning into a VIP day?
Jordan Gill
Yeah, I mean experience is helpful. I would say that kind of zero to one years for sure is like exploration. And I wouldn't necessarily recommend VIP days during that kind of exploration part of the emerging entrepreneur, but I would say that if you've got a couple of years under your belt, you know the types of clients you like working with, you know what area you like to support folks in, then it could be a really great option for you to do a VIP day. But I would say if you have less than three to five clients, then it's just- I encourage folks to get the experience not only from a skill perspective, but also from a values, expectations, boundaries, perspective. And then we can kind of meld that into one and create again the mega VIP day that fits all the things that are what you're wanting.
Meg Brunson
I think that is a great answer. I feel like for me, especially, that boundaries piece took a while.
Jordan Gill
It did take a while. For a while, for a lot of us, I think. Yeah.
Meg Brunson
So I love how you answered that. Now I want to kind of take a step back. I'd love to hear a little bit more about your story. Like, what was your business like before you discovered VIP days? Because clearly there's a story there before you started teaching them. Right?
Jordan Gill
Totally, right. So I started business about six years ago, and I started the typical way of monthly retainers, which, again, there's nothing inherently bad about monthly retainers. However, for me, they were super draining and exhausting. I'm someone who struggles with three chronic illnesses, and I have to be very cautious about the amount of time and energy that I'm putting into work. So when you are working, I think I had four clients at the time, about five months into my business, and three out of my four clients were all launching. These were expectations of mid six figure launch revenue. So very high stakes, very stressful. And I was a systems person, which is a pretty crucial part of launches. So yes, September 2016 was what I call launch'mageddon. And I was like, I'm never going to experience this again. I let go of two clients immediately after that and kept two clients and was like, I'm going to figure this out. So I went on a quest to find a different type of business model because I'm like, I like the work. I like the clients. I don't like- the ongoing task list is what I don't like.
Jordan Gill
And I don't like the project delays, and I don't like the back and forth and like, the slowing down. Like, I'm a pretty speedy person. You get me in a room with my Starbucks coffee and some live music, and I can get a lot done in very quick amounts of time. So I learned about VIP days from a sales coach that I had hired and did a VIP day with her. And I was, like, hooked. I was like, can I do this for me? She's like, sure. And so she's like, how much you want to charge for it? And I guess being a naive how old was that? 26? I was just like, oh, it'd be so fun if I could charge the same for my 40 hours a month package for my four hour package, which was $3,500. She's like, okay. And I was like, what? And I was like, I guess I said it out loud, so I have to try it. So here we go. Accountability. And within about a month, I sold my first one. And that's when I was like, I know this is the path for me. I know that I want to make this work and I'm committed to making this work.
Jordan Gill
And yeah, from there, I was bit by the VIP day bug and haven't looked back.
Meg Brunson
So do you have any retainer clients right now or are you totally VIP day?
Jordan Gill
I've been retainer free since early 2017.
Meg Brunson
Wow, that's incredible. Good for you! And I feel like that's its own testimonial, right, to what's possible for this, especially because if I do my math right, that's like six months from when you had that launch'mageddon and you were completely free of clients. So that's an incredible turnaround rate. Now I feel like, for me, the first time I was introduced to the concept of VIP days, it was a coach I had who offered them at a hotel. Right? You went to a hotel? Like an in person thing. This is all pre-covid. So I'd like to hear a little bit about in person versus virtual and maybe what some of the options are that might be able to look like so now too. On the other side of covid. Part of me is like. I'd love to do some of those in person hotel VIP days. But I don't even know where to get started with that.
Jordan Gill
Right? I know, right? Again, I recognize my own bias. So you are going to be like, okay, she's sipping on her own koolaid. Yes, I am. So VIP days truly are one of the most flexible offers out there. And the reason for that is there are a mixture of a few things. Number one, people love speed and they will pay more money for speed. That's not something I made up. That's not something that is floating out there. It's literally every industry you can see that in. So when it comes to services and things like that, there are always people who are going to want whatever result it is that you're offering faster. That's a fact. Pretty much. I have yet to meet a service yet that doesn't have something that people would want faster. So because VIP days have that kind of draw, one, they're called VIP days, so they sound very elusive and behind the scenes, like, not everyone can get them type of buy, but also they play on the fact that people will pay more money for quicker results. So you can do them in person? Absolutely. I've done VIP days in person.
Jordan Gill
They're super fun. Also pre-covid. And for me, I'm a pretty chill person. I have my few really cute outfits in my closet, but generally speaking, you're going to catch me in a T shirt and some sweatpants and call it a day. And so what's cool is for my VIP days, I put them up in my favorite hotel, which is this like 1920s vibe, great Gatsby situation and whatnot. But we get to curate their menu. And yes, we're like building systems, which sounds bland to most people, but we do it in really awesome, high vibe locations that kind of bring an energy to it that you can't necessarily get in virtual. However, I've definitely done more virtual VIP days than in person, mainly because, one, they tend to have higher profit margins because you aren't having to. For me, I covered a lot of things of my clients, like their hotel, their food, like, all that stuff. But with virtual, you just have a Zoom meeting that I'm already paying for Zoom and some contract software, and I do pay for a DoorDash gift card for lunch or things like that. So from a money standpoint, if you're just getting off the ground, I would say go virtual first and get some under your belt.
Jordan Gill
And then if you want to bring it in person, then you definitely can, whether that's you travel to them or they travel to you. I've done both because some people work on desktops, which still like, I love a good desktop. I have my own. But also, how are we not working in the cloud? That's okay, so I end up traveling to them. So those are kind of two ways you can think of the space and environment, but also you can think of it as, do I want to even be on the call with the client the entire time? Right? So I get a lot of introverts who are like, I'm down for the VIP Day. But, do I got to talk to somebody and be available for 6-7 hours? And the answer is no. That there's plenty of ways that you can structure your VIP day to be supportive of your energy capacity. Which. Again. If you're lik, zero people'ing place. I know people who do website development all back end or who do copywriting all behind the scenes or different things. Even systems work. Stuff like that. And you just do it in your own space and then you give over the deliverable.
Jordan Gill
Some people I've seen as a kick off call at the beginning or a follow up call at the end. So again, if you are somebody who wants to be in your own energy and your own flow versus talking to a client the entire time, there's absolutely ways that you can create that for VIP days.
Meg Brunson
I love that. I love that you could potentially- it's really just giving your client the whole day of your time, but your time doesn't have to be on a camera.
Jordan Gill
Yes.
Meg Brunson
Oh, I love that. And I feel like we're getting close to talking about this issue a little bit with families, right? So you're talking about balancing your time, maintaining your energy. The other issue is a lot of our listeners are parents, so we've got kids running around. And how exactly does that work? Does that mean I have to get a babysitter for the day?
Jordan Gill
Right. So again, it depends on your own cup of tea. However, where I've seen people, especially I started my program literally the month of the pandemic, like the world shutting down. So I've only helped people VIP days during really intense situations. And again, when you have monthly retainer or ongoing work and you have a partner, you've got kiddos, to be able to cover and have the support. A lot of times that you need in order to focus on the work that you're doing can be really difficult for ongoing work because every day having to juggle with your partner, who's going to watch the kids, who's going to take care of this, who's going to go get this, et cetera. And what's been super awesome to see is it's much easier to ask your partner, hey, I need these two days this month for you to be on, and then again the rest of the month is light sales and marketing and then you don't have to work the rest of the days as well. And so I found that to be really helpful for, again, busy families for caregivers, because it's a lot easier to block two days than it is hours every single day and whatnot.
Jordan Gill
So it's allowed for a lot more freedom. It's allowed for people to really put their life first before their business again, which is a big thing for me. So I found that in comparison to a lot of other offerings, this is a nice solopreneur business too. Like you don't have to have a team if you don't want to. I did not have a team for the majority of my years in business. So for me, it allowed me to be as flexible and freedom oriented as possible so that you can be there for your kids the majority of the month if you want to, or be there for your spouse or parents or grandparents or whoever's needing you at that time. Because that's why a lot of us get into business, right? We're like, we want to be available for life and then we end up creating these life-spucking monsters of a business that just drain us. And again, I lasted five months. I was like, not here for this. And at that time I didn't have my husband or bonus son, but I just knew that this was not going to be sustainable for me. This is not what I want when I do meet my husband and potential future children.
Jordan Gill
So I knew that things had to look differently. And you can make a really great income. You can make five figures a month, six figures a year, working four to six days a month, truly. And I know that because I did that and several of my clients have done that. So it's really, again about what are your values? Which I know Meg is big on. What are your values? And if your business is not aligned with those, then it is your duty to take a look in the mirror and say, how can I change this? How can I pivot to make sure that this is an alignment? And what is it that I'm tolerating about my current business that isn't serving me, truly? So I think that it can be tough because a lot of us, again, put our identities in our business. And so then if we say, oh, like, I built this business and now what does that say about me? Because I had that. Definitely. I was like, how could I be upset about my business when I'm the one who built it? I'm the one who did this to myself. And that's hard.
Jordan Gill
I've done plenty of shame spirals around it. So I recognize that it's a tough conversation in a tough, honest conversation to have with yourself. But it is so worth it if you're not feeling like your business model or offers are truly aligned with who you are and how you want to show up, because otherwise it's not sustainable. And I want you all to be in business for as long as you want to be in business. That's how that goes.
Meg Brunson
I love how you broke it down. Because I feel like when you think about getting somebody, getting childcare for a full day, it feels overwhelming until you think about the fact that it's only one day versus a couple of hours every single day.
Meg Brunson
Okay, so I'm curious. You mentioned four to six days a month. How do you typically- you and your business or recommend schedule those? Do you recommend like one a week or do you actually try to bundle them to knock them all out of the way in one week?
Jordan Gill
Yeah. So there's two interesting ways that you can do it. I've done both and both have the pros and cons or whatever, but one is doing one a week. Usually what I would do is I would spend one or two days every week in a marketing and sales capacity, whether it was taking sales calls, doing a guest podcast, whatever the case is, and then one day actually delivering on a VIP day. And my VIP day delivery days were Thursdays. So then Friday, Saturday, Sunday, Monday. I had four day weekends every weekend and it was super great. And so, again, you're putting a lot of work and energy into those VIP days. So definitely allow yourself to flow into some sort of rest period, however long. For sure. There's another way I do it, which is around like, cycle mapping. So this is for women, or people who menstruate. You can also do it, I guess, around lunar cycles as well. But what that is, is again, there's a cycle or a process or method that our body goes through where we have high energy days and we have a low energy days. And so instead of fighting my own body and being like, I don't feel great, I don't want to talk to anyone, give me some chocolate.
Jordan Gill
Instead of putting a VIP day during that time, I'm going to put it toward a time that I have energy based on my cycle. So I will again, the second week ish of my cycle. That would be when I put all of my VIP days or two VIP days in the second week and two on the third. So that way, again, I've got the highest energy, like the best shot at doing a really excellent job for my clients. And so you can do it that way too, if that suits you better.
Meg Brunson
Oh, I love that answer. And we actually have a podcast episode called Periods of Productivity where we had an expert come in.
Jordan Gill
Awesome.
Meg Brunson
I'm going to get her title wrong, but like a menstruation expert, right?
Jordan Gill
Yeah.
Meg Brunson
And talked about what you should be doing when. So I feel like I'll link to that in the show notes if somebody wants to go back and listen and then kind of mesh it up with Jordan's advice there. Now, when we were talking about going from retainer clients to VIP days, the other thing that comes on my mind is, does it become more marketing work? Because with retainer clients, you know, you've got them paying you month after month, but with VIP days, it would seem that you were constantly on the hunt for more people who need VIP days. So how does that kind of balance and play out?
Jordan Gill
Yes, this is one of my favorite questions and I'm going to try to not go on a full rant about.
Meg Brunson
Oh, goody.
Jordan Gill
So this is one of those that I just love to go in on this topic. So yes, you do have to market more as VIP days than you do monthly retainers. Not shy about that. When it comes to monthly retainers, and where I get a little bit mama bearish is this false sense of security that monthly retainers give people. And I say false sense because many, many of our clients have come in with retainer clients expecting that that is going to be a lifeblood for their business while they're moving into other things. And then one, two, and even a few people, three clients leave within a month or two of each other. And then what happens is, when you are in a monthly retainer kind of business model, is that you don't do any marketing. So then when- you know, a client leaves or two clients leave, you are having to start at baseline marketing. And it is going to take you exponentially more time to recoup that revenue because you literally have not focused on marketing at all. And it is unfortunate that that happens. And so what I found with VIP days is, yes, you do have to market more.
Jordan Gill
However, it is a more harmonious marketing delivery ratio. So that way if a VIP client bounces or whatever, you've been marketing and you've been connecting with referral partners and you've been getting out there. So the likelihood of recouping a VIP day client is much higher and faster than recouping a monthly retainer client. And this is not to say you can't have monthly retainers and whatever else. We have plenty of people who do. You just have to be very cognizant of. Again, don't get too comfortable of thinking that this money is going to be there endlessly because contracts do cancel. So that's my two cents on the matter is, I don't like the false sense of security sometimes that people can fall into when it comes to monthly retainers, because, again, nothing is secure. I'm not even saying that VIP days are super secure either. With entrepreneurship, the thread amongst all the business offers is nothing as secure, nothing as certain. If you want certain, you go get a job, kind of right with an asterisk. So people are seeking a certainty that isn't really a part of entrepreneurship. So it's tricky. But that's my two cents.
Meg Brunson
And you referred to it with your asterisk. But even a nine to five job is I've got a whole story about my mom and her husband who both lost their jobs for totally different, unpredictable, not performance related issues, like in the same month.
Jordan Gill
Totally.
Meg Brunson
I think that security is multiple revenue streams. Off my soapbox.
Jordan Gill
Also agree. Okay.
Meg Brunson
But no, I love how you broke it down, and I think you're so right. If somebody I still do have monthly retainer clients, and I've been in predicaments where it's like, oh, they just unexpectedly canceled, and it doesn't mean you're not doing a good job.
Jordan Gill
Totally.
Meg Brunson
It could be, I mean, we're entering a recession, right? I'm not an economics person, but that's been all over the Internet. So, yeah, those are all things we have to be aware of. But I love how you broke that down. I think it makes a lot of sense that when you're constantly filling your buckets, you're going to be marketing more consistently, more sustainably, and that will serve you better in the long run. So I love the answer. Now I want to wrap things up. I want to make sure we talk about this upcoming summit. So I will dive deeper into how I actually run my VIP experience at the summit. I'm not going to talk about now. Top secret. You'll have to go to the summit to find out. And I want to talk a little bit more about that. So give me all the summit promotional information.
Jordan Gill
Yes. So this will be our 6th virtual conference. We started doing them in June 2020, and we've done two a year since then. And. It's going on September 5 and 6th this year and it's pretty much for anybody who is already doing VIP days or is VIP day curious as I like to state it because you're going to meet again, our past events have been about 700, 800 Ish attendees. We're probably looking about 1000 with our current numbers right now. And so it's really the only place that a bunch of VIP day people gather together and connect and share. People are getting referral partners, clients, collaborations like personal insights, business insights. It's pretty top notch, if I do say so myself. If I can just toot my own horn. But some really interesting topics that we're going to be diving into because I'm a very deep topic kind of person. I'm not really good at shallow conversation, but some really deep conversations we're going to have is how over delivery isn't serving you, and how to create a thought leadership marketing strategy, and amongst other things as well, and another marketing one is around alignment is the assignment.
Jordan Gill
So again, we're not interested in you just doing certain marketing strategies because they're cool or whatever, like do what's going to feel good to you because then that's going to be exuded from your energy when you're present in it. So it's going to be a lot of fun. And like Meg said, she gets to be a part of it this year, which I'm so excited and honored about. So come and hear about her VIP days and what she does and what they're all about because again, you'll hear a variety of them. But again, if you want to hear Meg's specifically, you got to come. So join us.
Meg Brunson
And I know you brought up like my values. I am very value-oriented and I love, I feel like if I had a seal of approval you'd be one of the first businesses that would get it, you know what I mean?
Jordan Gill
That's so sweet.
Meg Brunson
My audience is diverse and they need to know I'm very careful to only promote other diverse businesses. But I just want to say I love the intake form, really clear about inclusive language and respecting all people and so you deserve a little prop for that. Now I'll put the link, I have an affiliate link, I'll put the link in the show notes and all the places. If you're interested in that summit, you should be there. I'm going to be there. You should definitely be there. And I want to make sure we talk about your VIP day roadmap too.
Jordan Gill
Yes. So if you're like, okay, I'm going to sign up and it's going to be a couple of weeks or whatever the case is, then definitely check out our roadmap which is where we share the nine successful parts of a VIP day. And so it just gives you a really good overview of truly what is a part of offering VIP days. And we also slide in the three big mistakes that we see a lot of people typically do because, again, we just want to kind of guide. Right. There's a lot of flexibility, but there are some things that we've seen affect the results of a successful VIP day. That is also available in a link, I'm sure somewhere around here.
Meg Brunson
Yeah, I'll put it in the show notes, but I have SystemsSavedMe.com/roadmap for that one, so I think that's great because it will give you something to chew on as you prepare, as you wait for the summit start to get your head in like VIP day mode. So when the summit hits, two days sounds super palatable and manageable, but we all know it's going to be jam packed, full of value and it's going to be a lot. So prepare yourself and get excited and make sure you let me know if you're going so that I can look for you and maybe we can even talk about it afterwards, share some of our takeaways. So, Jordan, thank you so much for being here today. I appreciate the opportunity to chat with you and learn more about your VIP day best practices and share that with all of our listeners and viewers. So, thank you so much.
Jordan Gill
Yeah, thanks so much for having Meg and thanks you all for listening.
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